lexus ls400 : I was in a similar situation last month, and looked at used carslike theLExus, as well as Beemer 5-series. However, i ended up buying the 1998HOnda accord for the foolowing reasons: 1. My wife plans to keep the car for 8 years. Even though 5 year old LS 400 > new Honda Accordd,IMHO, 12 year old LS 400 << 7 year old Honda accord.2. The fierece competition in this price segment has led to significantimprovements in power, handling and safety, over the last 3 years. E.g. i bought an accord LX V-6, (200 HP VTEC) for $2-akhileshC> >The Lexus runs great. My 94 Accord, which I bought as brand newC> >and is still in good condition, is piece of shit compare to theC> >Lexus.C> >C> >I reach the conclusion that buying an used luxury car is better than buyingC> >a new econo box like an Accord or a Camry. My next car will be an BMWC> >M3, of course, 2 or 3 year old.C> >C> >ShuranC> >C> >C> CCI was in a similar situation last month, and looked at used carslike theCLExus, as well as Beemer 5-series. However, i ended up buying the 1998CHOnda accord for the foolowing reasons: C1. My wife plans to keep the car for 8 years. CEven though 5 year old LS 400 > new Honda Accordd,CIMHO, 12 year old LS 400 << 7 year old Honda accord.CCC2. The fierece competition in this price segment has led to significantCimprovements in power, handling and safety, over the last 3 years. CE.g. i bought an accord LX V-6, (200 HP VTEC) for $2C-akhileshC
lexus ls400 : No way. A 82 Mercedez 300 is $5,000 more, 90 Accord is $5000...Shuran Wei wrote in message You were severely abused on the tire replacement. I am about to replace 4 tires on our '92 LS400. I am getting either Dunlop's or BFG's in premium ultra-high performance (V or Z rated) all-season models for under $90 a tire, delivered, from Tire Rack or Discount Tire. Mounting and balancing will be under $20 each. So I will total out just over $400 for a full set.I take it you did not buy a Lexus Certified used car from a dealer? The dealers charge more than a private party sale, but I think the 6 year warranty is worth it and is pretty thorough.By the way, if your car has under 60,000 miles get ready for a timing belt replacement at that point that will cost about $1000! I have the service manuals for my car, and the service people practically have to take the front end off to change the belt. I also recall that changing the rear shocks looks like lots of labor. Supposedly the factory shocks last a very long time, thank God.Toyota was not very clever in making the car easy to service. lexus ls400 : I drove a 1993 Lexus LS400 at 145 MPH on a unnamed California freeway (tokeep cops from nosing in), and when I passed a 18 wheeler, the air wallthrew the car out of balance, and the car bobbed from left to right in aup-down manner for about 10 seconds before settling down. This wassurprising to me, given the Lexus's weight and such. Has anyone had the same experience?? The one I had didnt have thesuspension option, and had 10,000 miles on it. After that, I didn't trustthe stability of the Lexus. On the straightaways, the car was smoothcruising at 145 MPH when no cars or 18-wheelers were around.My Toyota Camry used to do that at 80 mph. Perhaps it's something aboutToyota suspensions. I've never driven a Toyota Cressida, but I thinkthe LS400 is just a rebadged/upgraded Cressida.No car is "created from scratch". Even the Saturn used a lot of existingGM parts. The ES300 *is* a Camry, as the BMW ads point out. I believethe first year LS400 used the existing Cressida platform. Both are rearwheel drive cars.I owned a Cresida and I followed them, Infiniti and Lexus quite closely.I can tell you with 100% confidence that the LS400 was NOT created on aCressida platform. Even the simplest check will bear this out - look atthe wheelbase, and the track. lexus ls400 : Well, actually, as Consumer Guide points out, while the ES250 was a Camry, there are enough differences between the ES300 and the Camry to warrant the Lexus' higher cost.And I've seen no source saying the LS400 was built on the Cressida platform. Can you provide your source? Every thing I've read says the LS was an all-new design.In article (Bill Tuthill) writes: -*- ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^Saturn isn't a $39,000 (LS 400 price in 1989) luxury car. If you saidthat Cadillac used a lot of exsisting Saturn parts, that would make moresense. (In your comparison) -*-True, the ES 300 is built from a Camry. They share the same mechanicals,and the engine. -* Sorry, the first year LS 400 didn't use the existing Cressida platform, it was from scratch. It just seems that way with both cars being rear wheel drive. Plus the LS 400 drives a lot better than the old Cressida IMHO.-* Uhhhhhhhhhhhh like are we admiting that there are cars made from scratch? What ever happened to the "No car is `created from scratch" line? The Lexus SC 400 is created from scratch. Before the SC400 was released to the public, Motor Week had a whole show on how Lexus designed and created the SC 400. Intersting part was that a balloon gave the idea for the overall shape of the car. -* The LS 400 is from scratch. The SC400 is from scratch. The GS 300 is a Toyota Aristo in other countries. The SC 300 is a SC400 with a V6. The ES300 is a Camry. Well, that should sum it up. -* lexus ls400 : Hi All, For the past month, I've had the opportunity to drive these carson a daily basis, so I thought it'd be cool to share my conclusions withthe rec.autos.driving crowd. I know that these three cars aren't reallyin the same class, but it made for a good comparison, since most peoplewho claim that Car A is better than Car B probably base their decisions onmagazine articles, sitting in them at the dealer, or an occasional testdrive, rather than actual driving experience over an extended period oftime. I would have loved to throw in a Cadillac, BMW, or Jaguar, but Imade do with what I had. Here's the specifics on the cars: 1995 Mercedes-Benz S500 Sedan, all factory options installed, except forADS (Adaptive Damping System), and individual rear passenger climatecontrol settings. 5500 miles on the odometer MSRP w/options, about $950005.0 liter DOHC 32 valve V-8, 315 horsepower 4-speed automatic transmission1991 Lexus LS400, all factory options installed44500 miles on the odometerMSRP w/options, about $48000 (in 1991)4.0 liter DOHC 32 valve V-8, 250 horsepower4-speed automatic transmission w/lockup torque converter
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