lexus cars : Sorry, but the ride of any car is influenced more by the suspension settingsand tires, than anything to do with AWD/FWD/RWD. Look at Audi, BMW, Volvo,and Mercedes Benz AWD models. They are luxury cars with excellent rides. Butnot because of the drive system employed. Because of suspension engineering,and tires.You are absolutely right. A great example is the old Renault FWD cars thatwere imported by American Motors as the Alliance and the Encore. Prettycrappy cars except for ride comfort, which was as good as anything made byanybody. The French may not care about much, but they do care about comfortand they do it wonderfully in all their cars FWD, RWD, etc. Steve Barr (philosopher, poet, humorist, chemist,Visual Basic programmer)"Stephen Clark" wrote in message...Not to digress, but didn't Renault make "Le Car" before Alliance/Encore. Wecalled it "Le Piece of ".Actually, almost bought the 1.6 turbo version new. Then it sunk in thatbuying a French car in the U.S. was not a smart thing to do in the long run.Bought a Mazda 626 5-door instead. MUCH better choice. Great car.
lexus cars : Anybody have access to a DVD NAV disk, 2002 or newer for sale or copy?Ah, if it were only that easy. The NAV DVD's are multi layer, no consumerDVD copier will be able to make a copy. Be prepared to pay 15-20K for theability to copy the $250 DVD.You can get an update for $250?? Can you get me one too? They want $500 atthe dealership... (and I won't give it to 'em)I just checked on Saturday with the Milwaukee area Lexus - Lexus of NorthShore - same owners as Lexus of Brookfield - anyway NAV upgrade for 2002ES300 that came with the 2001.1 version is $275 and you can install ityourself. NAV upgrade was made available 10/2002 and has a service bulletindated 9-18-2002. they don't carry the NAV DVD in stock but could have it in4 business days.I checked the service bulletin on Saturday - somewhere around 20 citiesadded as NEW and maybe 10-12 cities updated. City added in Wisconsin wasMadison.Personally not enough changes to warrant $275 for me to upgrade.Aren't you the kiddo who supposely leased your LS430?? Why do you want to buy the Nav DVD update for your leased Lexus?
lexus cars : Oh God. It's back... DUH .. maybe I just want a current DVD for my NAV?Nah. Too logical for you.Just for the record, Carl is the one who claims to have leased 4 LSes in the last 10 years, have high 6-figure annual income (around $700,000-900,000 I guess.) Got free gold-plating on all his leased Lexus cars. Yet he has very little knowledge about Lexus cars. Can't figure out how the LS's cruise control works. His writing style is quite juvenile as well. Maybe Carl is an NBA or NFL superstar, that'd explain everything. My bet is that he's just a 21-year-old who's not getting any in the real world (Lexus and otherwise.) So he comes here to join the Lexus party.I'm picking up my '03 LS430 next week, and it has the NAV as part ofthe Custom package, which I'm greatly looking forward to.1. I assume I'll get the latest DVD with the car. How can I check?2. Any experience with the voice commands? Does the system do a goodjob of recongizing the voice?The ML sound system is also included with the package. Too bad asmostly I listen to talk radio and audio-books! :)
lexus cars : My 98 LS was 35k in June. Must be cheaper now (in Minnesota). I get 19 mpgconsistently in the metro area. I floor it A LOT and drive 80 mph a lot.On a trip to Fargo we got 23 using cruise, wife driving, etc.For gas, you're going to laugh at this.... If I am filling it up for myself,I use premium. If it's my wife's week (we trade cars weekly) I use regular.I never notice a difference however.I have only changed the oil since buying mine. It's a Lexus certifiedwarranty car so I'll always go to the dealer if I ever have to.This is a hard car to have a family with if you like cars but love yourfamily. The leather is so nice and scuffs so easily. Your kids will resentyou for how careful they have to be.There is glut of used luxury cars in Silicon Valley and other high techcities.If you are worried about premium vs. cheaper fuels this is not the car foryou. You should use premium. The real killer though will come with thecost to keep the car in good condition.Let's say you hit a bump hard. You will bruise the suspension bushings andthe car, especially the LS, will ride lower on one side from then on. Justto replace the shock and its bushing will require $500 to $1,000 because ofhow the car is built. If one of those stupid little glowing gauge needlesgo out it will be $400 (they go out ever five or so years I'm hearing) notexactly a light bulb. New A/C $1,500. New power steering $1,200. And soon. Every repair my LS has needed is about 3 times more than any car I'vehad in the past and the Lexus dealer in my area is considered to be one ofthe best.
lexus cars : Contrary to popular belief these cars are a terrible used car value due tothe way Lexus gouges it's customers on repair and maintenance costs. Butthey are so nice to drive. Make your choice, but if you buy a Lexus that is5 or more years old, don't even think about the money or you will beunhappy.Local shops don't work with Lexus machines too well. For example, you can'tget computer diagnostic equipment and Lexus suspension is sophisticated anddelicate. Lexus seems to use a lot of special tools. Very few partsdealers carry anything beyond the most fundamental components (oil filters,air filters).Also, if you have a small fender bender, your car will be considered totalloss by insurance because the cost to repair will easily exceed the value ofthe car.Just keep in mind that you're getting heresay opinions as you would in abar. Take everything with a grain of salt.Repair costs for Lexus cars are comparable to similar luxury cars. This hasmore to do with higher level of service expected by luxury car buyers andthe extra electronic complexity of luxury cars than anything else. Ifyou're far from a dealership, then this is a negative on any make of car - Iwouldn't want anything but a common big-three car in Rock Springs Wyoming.I've never heard of a Lexus having a more fragile suspension. The mechanicsI've talked to have found Lexus cars to be well built and easier to work onthat the European cars. Yes, Lexus has a speedometer needle lightingproblem, but all cars develop some problems after many years. If you haveto replace the instrument cluster for $600 every six or eight years, thenyou're spending $80-$100 year on this repair. Older cars just require morerepairs. It is a lot cheaper than a $750/month lease payment.
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