acura tl : From: ()Subject: Re: Acura TL Question Newsgroups: Date: 1999/08/31 In article wrote:Even though you're already spending $30k, $2000 seems like an awful lot ofmoney. For $2000 you could get a very nice laptop computer, mapquest, anda gps unit which would serve the same purpose when you needed it, and alsobe a laptop for any other use you might have for it.B======================================== =============================Brian E. Hannon University of Pennsylvania2822D Ogden St. Department of BioengineeringPhiladelphia, PA 19130 and Orthopaedic Research(215)235-9852 From: ()Subject: Re: Acura TL Question Newsgroups: Date: 1999/08/31 Brian E. Hannon wrote in message...I agree with the above. I did not get the nav system in my 99 but insteadbought a Compaq laptop that I have with me in the car at all times. For thefew times I actually need a map or directions the laptop gives me all theinfo I need.When I was looking at the 99 TL I tested out the navi systemwith the dealer in the car. What an experience. It could'tlocate my house, it couldn't find the resturant down the streetso we tried a few more, a hotel etc. No luck. The dealer suggestedlooking up the dealership. Now that showed up. Anyway, I think it wouldbe usefull to give you a general idea where you were, and whatroad your on. If your looking for something to locate landmarks,hotels, forget it.
acura tl : I've had a 99' TL for about 5 months now. I've made use of the Nav at least 20 times and it's been accurate every time. It doesn't alwaysfind the best route, but it can re-program itself on the fly as soonas it notices you're off route (if you happen to know a betterroute). My wife and I weren't going to getthe Nav when we first started looking at the TL, but we're bothreally glad we got it. There's nothing like having the instrumentintegrated into the car, IMHO. We just wish it had more thingsprogrammed into it (like Starbucks, McDonalds, etc.). As one example, I had to travel down to San Diego last week toan office I had never been to. As it turns out, it was the morninga CHP officer got shot on the freeway and the freeway was virtuallyclosed all morning. My friend and I got off the freeway hoping togo south on Highway 1, but when we got off the freeway, it was backed up also. So, instead of going south with all the other traffic,we made a quick detour going north and went through some residential neighborhoods until we bypassed the congestionand then got back on the freeway. I would have been completelylost without the Nav -- both for the maps and telling us exactlywhere we were at all times.
acura tl : I begrudgingly paid list -- 27950 plus destination charge but dealer threwin floor mats, mud flaps, wood shift knob and trunk tray. I got areasonably fair price ($7200) on my higher mileage (100K) 94 Integra LSthough, which helped. I drove a loaded Accord coupe and it had quite a bitmore road noise and didn't shift as smoothly -- it tended to lurchabruptly. I like the dash better on the TL -- it has more of a 'personal'luxury look but underneath I'm sure it's the same as the Accord's.Superficial things: I like the more substantial look of the TL and likethe Acura symbol on the hood, trunk, and steering wheel. Am extremely happy with the car -- it is as tight as a drum, no rattles,squeaks and love the way it drives and handles. Am also amazed with thegood sound quality from the stereo with only 5 speakers -- bass responseis excellent and it barely distorts even when cranked all the way. When Isee these goons in their well over $10,000 more 528i's I just have tosmile at how they got ripped off.You need to learn some things about cars if the insignia (which most car makersseem to change every 5 years now) excites you.
acura tl : They aren't driving overpriced Hondas, and are probably too busy easilyaccelerating away from you in complete comfort that they fail to notice yoursmirk.A $30,000 Honda by any other name is still a $30,000 Honda.--------------------------------St even Donnan1993 VW VentoSo I guess an $120,000 Daimler-Chrysler S class V12 is still a Dodgeby any other name?Gee, I wonder if another overpriced $800,000 Honda will win yetanother CART race tomorrow and lock up the engine cup -- again?Bahah. Well, now we see the source of such snobbery! Everyone covets'93 VW's...--------Bentley - Alexandria VAI hate it when I work the red shift; the commute seems to take forever...Your inability to answer the questions is noted, as is your generallack of balls.Oh, I'm quite aware of the incredible performance envelope of yoursupercar. Which is probably why you're so hostile and frustrated...understandably.--------Bentley - Alexandria VAI hate it when I work the red shift; the commute seems to take forever...An Acura is nothing more than a dressed up Honda. Period. There is a world ofdifference between a V12 S-Class and a Dodge, and you should know it. And alsoa world of difference between the motor Honda puts in CART chassis and the onethey put in their Hondas/Acuras. You should know that as well.
acura tl : Your questions seem to indicate that you did not, which would make you stupid(with balls). A sad combination.I never claimed to have a supercar. My car peforms quite capably, and I amhappy with it. The badging does not excite me, nor would a wood "sport shift"knob on an automatic shifter (which I do not have).Now, if you want to talk about something serious, rather than insulting my carslike a child, we could discuss the way that European marques takeparts/features/designs/chassis/techn ologies from their upscale vehicles andtrickle them down through the lower priced models whilst Japanese (andAmerican) marques take the lower market models and add gadgets and plush tothem to make them upscale, and what effect the two methods have on vehiclequality, performance, price, and luxury.--------------------------------S teven Donnan1993 VW VentoBots can send spam to andFrom: ()Subject: Re: Acura TL Questions From A Potential Buyer Newsgroups: Date: 1999/09/18 Pseudobrit wrote:I don't think the 528i (2.8L 193hp) will be "easily accelerating away" from theAcura TL (3.2L 225hp). I'd say they're pretty well neck and neck in acceleration.If price wasn't a factor, I'd take the Bimmer, but if price is a factor, the Acurais a pretty good deal.
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