acura performance parts : The fact is, these "riceboys" that put in performance parts that seem tojust make loud noises and offer little for performance can't afford a"faster car". What they do is, they buy an old used Honda for really cheap,then they try to enhance its looks by adding these "very extreme racing"looking things on their cars (mostly exaggerated parts, like way too bigspoiler, way too big exhaust pipe etc.), they probably get a good deal forthese add ons (or so they think) from some shop or a friend of some sort,when really the quality of these add ons do liitle for performance andreally make the car look and sound ridiculous. Only the rare few people whoknow little about cars may think this is impressive, but true carenthusiasts will recognize this as a cheap way to get attention, and is justan attempt to make a cheap car look expensive (when it actually makes itlook cheaper, you can't make a 89 Honda Civic HB look like a Ferrari youknow). For those who buy actual quality parts, and actually get results inperformance, that's a different story, however I still feel it isn't worthit, if you end up paying lets say $15,000 on a used car, then you beef it upby spending another $15,000 on enhancements, you might as well of bought a$30,000 used sports car instead. If you wanted to go fast, and you wanteverybody to know you can go fast, then get a car with a true image of beingfast, beefing up a Honda to look fast, doesn't work, since there are so manyriceboys out there, you can't tell which ones are the true performanceenhanced ones and which ones are just "rice". I guess I just don't have toomuch of a fondness for suping up cars (especially cheap cars, since you endup spending top dollar anyways to try to make an econobox go fast, when youshould have bought just a fast car to start with), I feel that a sports carshould not only go fast, but present a certain image to go along with thespeed, and a styling statement is very important too. While I know that youcould probably beat a Ferrari's performance if you used the same amount offunds that it would cost to buy a Ferrari on your Honda, I feel the Ferrarihas a statement and style which justifies the price. You see I seen theSupe Up Mags that have all these 10 second CRXs, Civics whatever, basicallyto me that isn't all that impressive. Fine you get a car to go really fast,first off, what good are these car in the real world? They are obviouslynot street legal, the other riced up cars that are street legal are not veryergonomical or useful. Plus they look like a hunk of junk, they just gofast. What is so impressive about making a 1000lbs metal box go fast?
acura performance parts : If they like it, good on them. Who am I to criticize what other people like?Also, who ever said that they're trying to get their cars looking and performinglike a Ferrari? It's also about personalisation - making a car different fromall the others on the road.And, before you criticize that comment as attention seeking how many people,including yourself can honestly say that they don't like ANY attention? No-one.Ferrari was just an example, but it is completely obvious that these peopleare trying to make their cars look like some super machine, some expensivesuper machine. I was mainly criticizing the people who rice up their carsand add little or no performance, but try to give the impression that theydo. I was merely expressing my opinion about supe ups in general, but forthose that want to put performance upgrades, that is totally fine, I wasn'tcriticizing those that put actual performance enhancing upgrades, I was juststating that I wouldn't personally do it, but if others do that is just fine(just an opinion). As far as attention goes, it all depends on theattention you want to get, obviously these people want to get attention withthe intent to impress others. But as I was saying, these ridiculous ricedup cars do not really impress. Their intentions do not agree with theirresults. If they really wanted to impress, then they should get a hotsports car. For example, think about the VW Beetle, yes it gets attention,however all of it is not positive attention, it just stands out, but manythink it is ugly. A riced up Honda is far worse than the Beetle, cuz somepeople actually think the Beetle looks cute. As for a Ferrari, it is quitesimply impressive to most, and gets the respect of most people out there.You see its like this, lets say you have and old cheap Honda , it has a loudexhaust noise, you play the music real loud with your super woofers. Itcatches peoples attention, acutally it catches their ear drums, but anywaysthey look over (so the person with the Honda achieved the first step), whenthey look over they see a piece of junk Honda and they think wonder why theywant to get attention when they have nothing to show for it, so then theyjust ignore it. Whereas if you had a Ferrari, and you played the musicloud, they turn their heads and then they stare at it as they drool. Ipersonally wouldn't want to get attention if I had nothing to show for it,nothing to impress with. acura performance parts : Please tell us the Honda marketing equivalent of the Acura RL, then. :)Seriously, though, are you saying that the owner of a GS-R would shareeverything with the owner of a Civic Si, even though something as basic asthe engine displacement is different, and demographics show a differentbuyer profile?Seriously, though, are you saying that the owner of a 3.2 TL isdemographically the same as the owner of an Accord V6, and that they'd sharethe exact same experiences and want to do the same things with their cars?I was just passing along the information that rec.autos.makers.acura existedon certain servers. If the desire hadn't been there, then I can't imaginewhy someone created the group just to have a group for every U.S. marque.I'm curious what kind of car all the flamers and nay-sayers are driving. Iseven a single one of the detractors driving an Acura?I'm sure most of us _know_ our cars are Honda and don't want to take awayfrom that.Honda Legend. the ones sold in AUS, NZ, and JPN, that is. they areessentially the same vehicles, except for the fact that they areright-hand-drive. plus a few differences in options. :-P acura performance parts : sure they're different cars, per se. but they are from the same company.and they share the same engineering. there might be sometopics/issues/problems that are common to both Hondas and Acuras.something as minor as which CD changer would work on Honda/Acura headunits, or something like which power steering fluid to use. also, peoplecan share resources such as what repair shops specialize in Honda/Acuravehicles, or what shops carry performance parts for Honda/Acuravehicles.ahhh... demographics again. you've fallen for the marketing gimmick. aHonda is a Honda. inspect an Acura and you'll see "Honda" on variousparts of the vehicle. on my Integra, it says "Honda" on the engine, onthe radiator support, on my battery, on my side view mirrors, and onother parts of the car.yeah, i know you were just trying to pass some info along. that's cool.but some of us were indicating that it's useless because the Acura nameonly exists in North America and that traffic in that newsgroup would beterribly low, or non-existant. which is true. i've been in there a fewtimes, and mostly found spam in there. the proponents of the Acuranewsgroup claim that they don't want weed through all the Honda-relatedtopics in RAMH to find something that applies to them. but i thinkthat's just being lazy. besides, i want to hear from Integra driversfrom other parts of the world. and i'm sure others do also. and i'm surethere are a few NSX drivers that would like to share. acura performance parts : I can't with good conscious stand by and let somebody recommend JacksonRacing as a source of Honda/Acura Car performance parts without putting mytwo cents in. I and several of my friends and acquaintances have tried to do businesswith JR on several occasions over the last 5 years. 80% of the time ithas been a negative experience. Parts were ordered and after 3 week theydidn't arrive; call JR and they say they are backordered; six weeks afterthe original order for a CRX muffler (really rare part here) it arrives. A set of sway bars were ordered for an 88 CRX-SI they arrived a week late; during install of the bars, it was discovered that parts were missing; 4 days later, with the car sitting on jacks, the missing parts arrived. A suspension kit was ordered for a different 88 CRX-SI and it arrived a week late with a sway bar kit for an 87 CRX. The bottom line is very poor service.Now a comment about the quality of the parts. If you read JR's catalog theymake it sound like they make most of this stuff themselves but that isn't thecase. The suspension parts that they sell, and mark up heavily, (springs, shocks, and bars) can be purchased from other places usually at a big savings.The sway bars they sell are made by HRE Suspension Systems possibly the springs are too. The shocks are Tokico, for the most part, and can be boughtfrom other mail order discounts places for less. For a big savings on shocks,look for an ad in Autoweek for R&D Enterprises, you will be really pleasedwith their prices. I know I was.
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