acura canada : Well, there are still going to be people who will have no idea that this car is based on the Civic. Besides that, some people will want either a Honda or an Acura, plain and simple. And since they are physically separate dealerships, and not integrated like Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infiniti, there may even be people dense enough not to know Acura and Honda are the same company!If I wasn't in a hurry to get a car, I would have gotten the 1.6EL over the Civic, although I can't say I'm disappointed with my Civic!_____________________________" ... i threw bitter tears at the ocean ... ... but all that came back was the tide ... " SMcL ** The X-Files & NewOrder @ mirror @ First of all, I miscalculated. I quoted the price for an automaticCivic and a manual shift 1.6EL. So in reality, the price difference wascloser to two grand.I went in to take a look at the 1.6EL on Monday (and drove it). Yes,it's got all the nice extra tidbits -- wheels/tires, CD player, keylessentry, etc. But the more I looked at it, the more *generic* it looked. The front looks exactly the same as a half-dozen other cars on theroad. Boring!
acura canada : So I went to the dealership yesterday and picked up my brand-spankingnew 97 Civic EX (in Vogue Metallic Silver, of course!). Couldn't behappier... The snob appeal of owning an Acura means nothing at all to me. But ifthe 1.6EL had been available last year when I bought my Civic EX, I wouldhave bought the 1.6EL instead. The bigger engine and the extra soundinsulation would have sold me. Also, it becomes clear why those **** at Honda Canada made the hithertobaffling decision not to offer the VTEC in the Civic EX, as they do in the'States. They wanted to preserve the market for the Canadian-ony 1.6EL! Grrrrr. That burns me. But, I guess that's capitalism.No kidding. I also wondered why the top-of-the-line Civic in the U.S.offered keyless entry, the VTEC engine, a moonroof, full body-colouredmirrors and moldings, etc., etc. It's all clear now.However, I just picked up my beautiful silver '97 EX and I'm thrilledwith it. The 1.6EL has a very generic look to it -- the Civic's buggyheadlights give it a real personality! I was also forced to buy anautomatic (wife), so the VTEC engine mated to an automatic didn't havemuch appeal. The 106HP engine in my new Civic is surprisingly peppy...
acura canada : No kidding (too!) I love my Civic EX, although I would have bought the 1.6EL if it was offered when I bought my Civic just over 4 months ago. But I can't really complain. It's a great car, and it's my first car too. Most of my friends would be lucky if they even got a 3 year old Cavalier as their first car!_____________________________" ... i threw bitter tears at the ocean ... ... but all that came back was the tide ... " SMcL ** The X-Files & NewOrder @ mirror @ I'm about to trade in my 1990 Civic for a new one. I had pretty much decided on an EX 4 door, when I spotted the new Acura 1.6 EL. They are basically the same car, but the Acura is better looking in my opinion. Is it worth the extra $? Has anyone else been faced with this decision, and which way did you go?Well, I bought my 96 Civic EX sedan almost 6 months ago. If the Acura 1.6EL was out (and if I had even known about it!) I would have gotten that instead (although I really can't complain about my Civic!). Personally, I like the Civic's styling better, but for the extra $2,000-$3,000 or so, you get the VTEC engine, sunroof, standard security system, bigger tires, and other little niceties. You can't really beat that, plus the fact that Canada is the only place in North America where it's available--it's almost like an exclusive.
acura canada : 'taint fishy. I was going to buy an Acura RSX in Victoria when I was livingin Seattle. Not only would the warranty have been void, but the dealerrefused to sell it to me. When I worked through the numbers, the car thatwould have cost me $24K (USD) in Seattle would have cost me $18K (USD) inVictoria.Rob,Makes more sense...sounds like warranties are revoked on Hondas bought inCanada THEN imported into the US...not on all Hondas bought in Canada. Doyou know the reasoning for this?I would guess it costs Honda the same to produce an RSX for a Victoriadealer as it does for a US dealer (unless duties are substantiallydifferent). Does Honda really have an extra $6k profit in the US ones or dothey sell the Canadian ones at a loss?As I learned, and this is specific to the RSX....... The RSX is actuallymanufactured in Japan and is a true import to both Canada and the US. Thisdiffers from some of the other cars produced by Honda, like the Accord. Ibelieve the Accord is actually produced in the US...regardless. There aredifferent import fees/taxes/duries on Japanese cars imparted by Canada andthe US. I don't think that the cars are sold at a loss in Canada, ratherthey simply cost more to bring into the US.
acura canada : The warranty "thing" is a method in which Acura Canada and Acura USA can"collaborate" without collaborating. When a Canadian car (Acura or whatever)requires warranty work in the US, or when a US vehicle requires warrantywork in Canada, the company in the country in which the work is prformedpicks up the cost of the work. This is a "gentlemans agreement" and contraryto what you may think, you are not entitled to warranty service in a countryother than that in which you bought your car. If I buy an Acura in Canada,and then import it to the US, Acura US has just lost a sale. Worse, becauseof costs beyond their control (the duties.taxes/fees I mentioned) they neverhad a fair chance at competing for my money. To ask them to honour awarranty claim at their cost is a further unjustice and the claim will bedenied. The warranty has never actually been revoked.What would the firms which sell extended warranties offer you for a deal.That might have worked.Many dealerships, including ones I worked at, will not take brand X warranteework because of getting burned with non-payment. It seems that a lot of thosecompanies just want to collect your money at the time of sale. I have notknown of any problems with extended warranties from any of the majormanufacturers. Gary L.
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